CIP-112: Parcel Zero Autonomization

[DenverCitizen9]

Lots of opinions here, but I will do my best to respond to relevant questions.

@lyons800

• The dev team to the best of my knowledge has had every request granted. If retro-active comp is being requested, then it should not be bundled into a proposal like this.

Why not? Can you point us to rules or guidelines which outline the process that should happen? It seems effecient to get as much done as possible in a single vote instead of nickle and diming the community with small asks.

@lyons800

• 20k to cover for 10 years. ?? Why on earth do we need to up front fund a massive (over)estimate of property taxes 10 years in advance ?Basic maintenance, like what, cutting the grass ?

Do you know actual costs? You say this is an overestimate, but a week ago (7/23) your estimate was “10-15k per year at max” meaning this amount may actually only cover us for a year or two.

@lyons800

• 33k that could go towards another development effort to test another hypothesis of what is possible. Fair enough if there was any sort of mandate for the use of these funds or what to develop, but its ridiculous to ‘set aside’ such a large amount of money to experiment whenever your ready.

The only reason we have to wait on this is because CityDAO has not created an opportunity for Parcel Zero holders to express interest.

I’m also not sure how we see this as a large amount of money. In real terms it is around 1% of our treasury. In relative terms it is ~3x what was justified to send 8 citizens (yourself included) to visit Parcel Zero for one day. We have maybe 10 developers who have expressed interest in working on this; CIP-112 is the mandate. If there were literally anything else happening for which these funds were competing there could be a discussion about highest and best use, but in this case we’re talking about money that is otherwise sitting idle… at a time which is very valuable for Parcel Zero momentum.

@lyons800

• The fact that everything here is under-researched and has no proof of any sort of accuracy in your financials seems a bit strange as to the nature of the demand.

Stating your opinion does not make a fact. Care to raise an actual concern or identify an innaccuracy?

@lyons800

• Parcel 0 is a project, not a guild, yes it has its own governance but should not be congesting the discord with different channels that will be used once per week.

We are aware of your position. The irony here is that this CIP was inspired by your request to have a CIP sort out whether or not we should expand the discord.

Gatekeeping this ‘project’ because it is not a ‘guild’ misrepresents the effort. Parcel Zero has more membership interest than all guilds combined.

[DenverCitizen9]

@feyou

Compensation for previous contributors is very necessary. I think whether there is a better incentive mechanism: such as giving a certain percentage of creator royalties, so as to motivate contributors to make better designs that are in line with the market.

I absolutely agree with you. It is impressive how much the DAO has been able to accomplish with a shoestring budget.

Once governance is in place we should absolutely revisit these topics.

[DenverCitizen9]

@alexthims

just clarifying, the $5k is a bonus for outstanding work? We did get people paid for the Parcel 0 work.

Thank you @alexthims. The Dev team is extremely appreciative of your efforts to fast-track payments for outstanding promises. Not only did this close the loop on unfunded committments, it also freed up the Dev guild to have funding to continue work for CityDAO.

Although a bonus is a good way to think about this (and is in that vein), that is not the reasoning for this distribution. Most of the people who delivered Parcel Zero went above and beyond on their contractual obligations. The midnight oil was burned to include a variety of extra items, contribute more than was expected, include additional rework to really polish things, publish related documentation, etc.

While it could be thought of as a bonus (which would be deserved), I see it more as a recognition for excess efforts.