Discussion: Switch to Polis for CIP Deliberation

Hey everyone,

It’s clear to me that a lot of us are burnt out by the back and forth on Discourse and Discord. They are not designed for constructive critique nor the expression of nuance. Posting on them is public and inherently political (i.e. showing your cards). Ultimately, our deliberations and progress are a function of our tooling.

In this spirit, I would like to propose that we switch from Discourse to Polis for CIP deliberation. From its website, “Polis is a real-time system for gathering, analyzing and understanding what large groups of people think in their own words, enabled by advanced statistics and machine learning.”

I couldn’t find any Youtube videos explaining how it works, but here’s an excellent MIT Tech Review article (The simple but ingenious system Taiwan uses to crowdsource its laws | MIT Technology Review) and it’s a favorite of Vitalik [1]. Please check out this article or see the Polis website for articles, documentation, videos, etc.

Footnotes

  1. Referenced by Vitalik in What do I think about network states? as facilitating “better public discussion”.
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Can’t ever remember who says what so I hate not giving proper credit but I know Pol.is has been mentioned before. I think it sounds cool and would tend to agree that Discourse and Discord are hard to use to communicate effectively. Old school conversations seem to be a bit more effective, and face to face conversations are obviously the most effective, but neither are generally available or feasible for an audience as large as the DAO. Polis has the below written on their page - maybe you can reach out to them and find out more on how it would work functionally and then lead the effort?

  • If you are an organization interested in implementing Polis, and need help with integration and analysis, please contact us.
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So I did some reading on Pol.is and it sounds super cool (in general all of the vTaiwan things seem cool).

For those who want to see what a Pol.is output would look like, see this sample report:
https://pol.is/report/r3epuappndxdy7dwtvwpb

It seems like this should at least by a CityDAO experiment, maybe we can make it a part of a guild discussion somehow?

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I have also heard really good things

We should definitely try it as an experiment. @will are you up to reach out to them to figure out what an implementation would look like?

I did but haven’t heard back yet!

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